Why I'm Sitting the Next One Out

I was just on the We are Respectable Negroes (WARN) blog, reading DeVega's latest post on Herman Cain and the hooplah surrounding that Republicoon's Republican's claim that Black people in America are "brainwashed" and living on the Democratic "plantation" or some such (isn't "Democratic Plantation", like, an oxymoron anyhow?).  As some of you know, not too long ago, his O ness, while addressing the Congressional Black Caucus, told them to "Stop complaining.  Stop grumbling.  Stop crying."

Personally, I feel Maxine Waters was right in calling out his O ness on that statement because Obama would never level that statement towards, say, the Tea Party.  Or any group of non-Black people, for that matter.  And now I feel WARN is right to ask if Herman Creepy-Slavery-Fetish Cain could get away with his statement had he leveled it towards a group of non-Blacks.

No...he wouldn't.  And no, Obama couldn't.  I'm really annoyed with Black politicians on all sides right now, even more so than I am with their non-Black counterparts.  I'm just going to sit the next election out.

But Ankh!  If more POC did that, then we might get another Bush!!!

You know...when you turn 18, everyone rushes to tell you to register to vote and then they talk a bunch of bullshit about how much your vote counts.

Yeah...tell that to Al Gore.

My point is this: I've been voting for some time now and I'm not impressed.  I voted for crazy stuff like universal healthcare, women, gay, and transpeople's rights, lower prices for higher education, an end to war, an end to racial discrimination, a greener economy - you know...useless, pointless, meaningless stuff like that.  Yet here I am years later with two Black politicians - one of them the goddamn President, no less - talking down to their own people and basically reaffirming that it's okay for our paler cousins to do the same.

But Ankh!!!  You have to understand the position they're in!!!

I do understand their position; I believe it's called "status quo."  Oscar Grant is gone, kids.  Troy Davis is gone.  Aiyana Jones is gone, and all were taken out during the tenure of a Black president.  Black people currently have the highest unemployment and incarceration rates.  Our men are still being dragged off the roads by dim-witted Neanderthals with too many guns.

So if this is the best Black politicians have to offer, I fail to see how they differ from white politicians.

But Ankh!!!  If we don't re-elect Obama - 

Then hopefully the whitest McWhitey Republican will take his place, followed by the whitest McWhitey Democrat.

And the depression recession will continue.  The war will continue.  The loathing harbored abroad towards Americans - the white ones in particular - will deepen further, if that's even possible.  And Blacks and Mexicans will still carry the brunt of the blame, though by then the Chinese too will most certainly have their fair share.

Like I said...status quo.

I've spent the past several days watching videos and reading blogs and hearing about how so many people are out of work and losing their homes.  Those of us with advanced degrees and, like, zero opportunities are out on the blogosphere in a fury.  Meanwhile, we are living in a financially crumbling police state where our votes don't matter because everyone who gets voted for winds up mostly maintaining the status quo.

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  1. http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/147017/unions-vote-unanimously-to-support-occupy-wall-street-whos-next/

    "It’s about time the rest of New York City and America, who already have the indignation, to join the movement. Intuitively, many hundreds of millions of Americans know Occupy Wall Street is right in their attempts to change the political and financial tapestry of America.

    "The Occupation knows that we cannot count on politicians to do it—that a vote in an election and a prayer that a politician will represent our best interests is wishful thinking at best and delusion at worst. We should thus applaud the unions for taking up the cause alongside Occupy Wall Street."

    Like I said....

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  2. "Republicoon."

    That's it, I'm done for the night! You outdid yourself with that one, and methinks it should become a part of the Lexicon, along with "dump-o-gram."

    ROTFLMAO!!!

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  3. Tashabilities9/30/11, 6:33 PM

    I feel you, Sis. TOTALLY.

    Every time Obama talks to us, he's coming from a place of chastisement and talking down to us. He refuses to have a real conversation about race, and he won't let anybody else have one, either.

    The white folks who would be allies on the issue--Father Pfleger and Jimmy Carter--he renounces. 'Don't make the good white folks mad, we need their votes! Don't imply or say they're racist, even though they are!'

    He's distanced himself so far from us, yet still has the audacity to expect us to back him up. Black constituents are completely taken for granted.

    But at the same time, though, I would feel like I was spitting in the face of my ancestors who marched and died for my right to vote if I didn't at least MAKE MYSELF go choose between the lesser of the two evils.

    I'm torn. I wanna sit it out and not care about what happens to this place.

    But as it crumbles, I gotta live here. Even though I know in my heart of hearts nothing I do in a voting booth REALLY matters, the child in me needs to believe.

    As they say in relationships, you start with mess, you gon end with mess.

    This country was started on the genocide of the original inhabitants and its economy was built on the free labor of purchased people. America had a good 236 year run, but start with mess, and you gon end with mess.

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  4. @ Tashabilities

    But as it crumbles, I gotta live here. Even though I know in my heart of hearts nothing I do in a voting booth REALLY matters, the child in me needs to believe.

    Believe what? What do you expect to happen next?

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  5. Oddly this reminds me of the book by Charles Dicken the Tale of Two Cities. Don't say nothing when people are moving to China a communist state. because right now America is going out like King Louie.

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  6. C'mon Ankh! You gotta vote! If you don't, we'll be stuck with some off-the-wall, overly religious, white nutjob. One that wields the bible like a friggin' battle axe, while claiming god talks to them, and making sure the already struggling black middle class goes the way of the dodo.

    That may sound like hyperbole, but looking at the current front runners. It's really not.

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  7. I'll have to write a long agreeing response on this one.

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  8. Tashabilities9/30/11, 7:42 PM

    I need to believe, even for the 24-48 hour post-election period it takes to tally votes, that the button I pushed/lever I pulled went for the person/issues I pulled it for.

    I don't really believe it. But I sure would like to. I hate to think my foremothers & fathers were billyclubbed, got dogs sicced on them, fire hydrants opened on them and died for something that means absolutely nothing.

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  9. @ Tashabilities

    I hate to think my foremothers & fathers were billyclubbed, got dogs sicced on them, fire hydrants opened on them and died for something that means absolutely nothing.

    And white people hate to think they were the ones doing the clubbing, siccing, hosing, and killing.

    We can all hate to think of something painful, but if - to an extent - it is what it is, then we need to go from there.

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  10. Err...ignore my last post. Apparently I scrolled too far and missed your last bullet point, before watching the videos.

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  11. And "no" Democratic Plantation isn't an oxymoron, since back then Democrats were mainly Conservatives, and Republicans (like every black abolitionist/freedom fighter) was a Liberal. So while current day Repugnicans, like to say that the Democrats formed the KKK and that Republicans were for Civil Rights, it's a half truth, because both parties have switched named tags.

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  12. When Barack Obama first became our president, I'll level with you, I had mixed feelings about it. Yes, I was happy to see that a man of color got a chance to rule the Whitehouse and happy that it wasn't John McCain/Sarah Plain to get in it. At the same time, I had this cringe about the mess that was left behind by the Bush administration and if it wasn't done,they will probably will say I told you so. I could imagine what will be said about him right now" See.. I told ya Black folks just can't run business"

    Honestly, Obama have had some hits and misses.The economy isn't where it should be,but I wasn't expecting to be..at least not in 4 years and there were some issues that he could have done better in,but in spite of some of those faults.. I'm going to coincide with Franklin on this.

    I owe my voting rights to those civil right leaders who died for my right to vote and secondly, never surrendered to their oppressors whether they lived or died. Although my voting isn't going to kill anybody, it will certainly make me feel that I would be surrendering to the GOP. Whether or not Obama gets the job done, I wouldn't want them or their supporters to thrive on me not voting as they already rely on.

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  13. crookedglasses9/30/11, 9:35 PM

    I have to agree with Franklin on this one. The Democrats, independents, and young people sitting out (more like taking their marbles and going home) is why we got stuck with the GOP/Tea Party controlled House in the first place. Do we really want those whackjobs turning our already fragile nation into a theocracy (based on VERY un-Christian principles) or starting a nuclear holocaust all so they can usher in their apocalyptic fantasies?

    While President Obama's statement stings, he does have a point, and believe it or not, I think he would've said it to a non-black group. What with opposition from not just the Republicans, but his own party, he's bound to be frustrated. President Obama can't solely focus on Black America's concerns--he's the president of the United States. He needs to address the unemployment problems for everyone, as well as a multitude of other problems.

    I think the reason his statement is causing a stir in the blogosphere is because a lot of people bought into the media hype about him. For some inexplicable reason, people thought he would move mountains and be a savior, and they're disappointed because he's not moving fast enough, or the reality doesn't match the media image. This also reminds me a bit of Bill Cosby's statement a few years ago, and the controversy it stirred. We as black people seem to have lost that independent spirit and are relying too much on others to save us or do right by us (in politics, media, etc) when we should be trying to do for ourselves. Cutting off our collective nose to spite our face isn't going to cut it.

    No president has ever upheld all of his promises, and the reason the status quo is what it is is because we, the American people as a whole, allow it to be. We don't do our research, we don't understand how our government works, and we sit out when we don't get our way. The leadership reflects the people.

    It's great that Occupy Wall Street is happening, though I believe it should've happened as early as when the Supreme Court ruled corporations as people. Better late than never. Regardless of the outcome, we all have to keep pushing forward, be it through protests, social networking, blogging, etc. As Gandhi said, "We have to be the change we want to see in the world."

    Since you're considering sitting out, how will you deal if the GOP wins in 2012 and they decide to rescind the Voting Rights Act?

    Not voting is a great idea. That's exactly what the GOP/Tea Party want.

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  14. I wouldn't want them or their supporters to thrive on me not voting as they already rely on.

    Their supporters aren't thriving, which is the ultimate irony here.

    The recession, I knew would take time, but as various bloggers, and artists like Mos Def, are pointing out, Obama shouldn't have been silent on the execution of Troy Davis. And Mehserle shouldn't have gotten away with the murder of Oscar Grant.

    Yes, he's had some hits (like with gay and trans rights), but this misses aren't so easy to gloss over.

    Voting isn't helping because I think we're (over)due for a revolution. The normal channels, the system, etc. are broken and they're not going to work.

    I'm sick of this Repugnican vs. Dumbocrat argument. They're not doing shit except staying wealthy and staying in power. Fuck them both.

    @ Franklin

    You missed my point. I meant the words literally - i.e., you can't have a democracy on a slave plantation. Get me now?

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  15. @ Ankh

    Gotcha. I thought you meant something else.

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  16. Since you're considering sitting out, how will you deal if the GOP wins in 2012 and they decide to rescind the Voting Rights Act?

    Not voting is a great idea. That's exactly what the GOP/Tea Party want.


    Let me be honest; I'm fan and supporter of emigration and I'm already looking to start a career abroad. My parents were born in another country, I've lived in another country, and I never really did understand why non-indigenous POC were so vested in this country when it has consistently spat on them and treated them like shit, while trying to overthrow damn near everyone else's government, and murder millions in the process.

    I'm not buying this "Land of the free, home of the brave, give me your poor" company line. As my relatives say, Americans are programmed to stay in America. They've been told everyone else is backward and broke, and that if they leave this country, they will suffer horribly.

    Two, I'm a fan of heart attacks. I think this country needs a massive heart attack, and GOP/Tea Party in office will be a heart attack, stroke, and an embolism rolled into one. I think they will be the final coffin nail to drive North Korea to push the button.

    Everyone is scurrying to protect themselves, what little they have, and to dodge disaster, but I'm thinking that an epic disaster is just what this country needs. I'm talking bombs dropping, foreign troops invading, and the whole nine yards. Maybe that's what will finally drive the message home.

    I'll be honest; I am sick of American political; it is bullshit. And I'm tired of Black Americans in particular trying to cling to every possible reason to stay in this country when they, and generations before them, should've attempted a mass exodus long ago.

    Indeed, America started as a mess. But it wasn't OUR mess, so let's stop being the ones scraping for reasons to clean it.

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  17. President Obama can't solely focus on Black America's concerns--he's the president of the United States. He needs to address the unemployment problems for everyone, as well as a multitude of other problems.

    Of course not, but as a president of color, the continued abuse and sanctioned murder of POC should've been terminated a long time ago. I'm willing to give him two terms to fix the recession, but not police brutality, nor a bullshit war. POC should not be dying so needlessly on his watch. That's something you expect from a white president.

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  18. @Ankh...*bows to the critical thinker*

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  19. Thank you, Deb. Because in addition to thinking about my conditioning, I think of a lot of people of color's conditioning.

    1) Black Americans loathe police harassment and brutality and overall prejudicial treatment in this country, but very rarely mention leaving it.

    2) When someone else mentions it there's either *crickets* or they balk.

    3) They balk because they've been programmed to not only stay here, but to tolerate abuse as well. Yes, Obama appears to be a decent man. Yes, he has a whole country to contend with. Yes, he has some hits and misses. But when the president is black, no person of color should be getting murdered like Grant or Davis or Jones or Brisenia Flores or Sergio Hernandez or Frederick Jermaine Carter. I don't care what excuses anyone wants to make for our president; THAT should've been stopped a long damn time ago. We can't keep excusing that.

    4) Which leads me to this: despite the anger towards non-POC, when it comes to risking their all-out wrath in for a truly righteous, I'm getting balking and excusing from POC.

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  20. crookedglasses9/30/11, 11:22 PM

    @Ankh (regarding comments to my post)

    For many black Americans like myself, the US is the only country we know. No one from Africa came back for us, AND, we have no clue where we originate. Humans stick with what they're familar with. Since we're more or less stuck here, we're going to try all that we can to fix it. Also, people in EVERY country are brainwashed to think their country is the "bestest" country in the world and screw everbody else.

    In the event of a nuclear war, it won't be anything like Mad Max; it'd be more like "Bye bye humanity and 95 percent of all life on Earth". It's not worth it. Since the US is still "The Big Shit" (for now), anything that happens in the US or the Eurozone will have negative effects on teh global economy. We're all in this together, no matter where you flee. To prevent an invasion of US soil by a foreign aggressor, we need to take responsibility and hold our elected officials responsible.

    Yes, I've considered the prospect of leaving, but I have no funds, and I have no grounding anywhere. On top of that, I'd be considered "Just another stupid American/Yank". That, and I'll always be seen as a foreigner. Sure, I'm not seen as a "real" American anyway, but people are the same everywhere.

    I agree with you on the handling of sanctioned deaths of POC, but that's a problem of the military-industrial complex, the BS idea of American exceptionalism, and the entrenched racism in our politics.

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  21. @ crookedglasses

    For many black Americans like myself, the US is the only country we know. No one from Africa came back for us, AND, we have no clue where we originate. Humans stick with what they're familar with. Since we're more or less stuck here, we're going to try all that we can to fix it.

    Thank you for confirming my point.

    Also, people in EVERY country are brainwashed to think their country is the "bestest" country in the world and screw everbody else.

    That's a very American thing to say; people everywhere actually aren't. Some of us living elsewhere have a very sober idea of what's going on in our homeland. What's going on in America, however, is akin to Third Reich-thinking.

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  22. I feel the same way. I have ever since about last year. I didn't know about this but I'm not surprised. Not a little bit.

    Democracy was always an ideal, never a reality. We came really close but no cigar.

    I'm so apathetic because it really doesn't make any difference. Not in any meaningful way.

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  23. Democracy was always an ideal, never a reality. We came really close but no cigar.

    It seems like every candidate choice in every election is simply between Evil & Less Evil, or Useless & Slightly Less Useless.

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  24. I think about it this way. There are three ways you can deal with a hostile environment. You can 1) adapt to the situation
    2)make the situation adapt to you
    3)leave it entirely

    In America black people have tried one and two. And they don't work.

    Why don't more people think to leave? Do you honestly think that when shit gets worse we won't be attacked? We're always the scapegoats.

    You know what happened to the Jews of Europe right? They assimilated better than we did at least socio-economically but that didn't stop the Holocaust.

    And they said many of the same things that black people say now. I think we've suffered worse than them in some ways but we stick it out...Why?

    Im not saying we should be like Isreal but when shit got real they did what the fuck they had to do and LEFT. Why can't we do that?

    Maybe if we showed some backbone white people would know not to fuck with us. Get the UN involved like Malcolm X was trying to do.IF enough of us leave then that will make a difference.

    Collectively I think we let them do it because we still have a slave mentality i.e we've been conditioned to accept shit that other people wouldn't.

    It makes me sad.

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  25. Action is necessary. I think white people treat us the way they do because they know all we are going to do is talk and not act. They know we'll always be here.

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  26. @ crookedglasses

    One last thing.

    Not knowing where you came from is no excuse; learn your history. While you were here, we were being colonized at home, our lands and peoples being raped.

    Yet Ghana, an English-speaking country with a very strong economy, is giving away free land to Black Americans as a form of reparations for their part in the slave trade. When you get your plot, it's yours; you can build a home or or business - whatever you want.

    Who in America is doing that for Black people?

    In Nigeria, an English-speaking West African country, where some Black Americans trace their ancestry, there is the "indigenous certificate". If it turns out you originally hail from the country, you don't have to worry about visas and extra paperwork; you're issued a certificate and basically considered one of the people after that. In other words, you're welcome home.

    Who in America welcomes Black Americans?

    You've been conditioned to think ill of Africa and to justify those ill thoughts to cover up the fact that you're just too afraid to go home, to your real home.

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  27. @ Student

    You took the words right out of my mouth.

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  28. @ Ankh
    Well in all fairness...we're here because we got sold here. Its like being given up for adoption. Some people choose to find their real parents, some don't because they don't want anything to do with them. Its an individual choice and I cant really argue with either decision. On the one hand you need to know who you are but if your parents obviously didn't want you to know that...why should you care about it?

    I don't think ill of Africans. I just don't think automatically good of them either. And they aren't exactly extending their affection and kinship to us. They aren't being colonized now and they know where we are at...yet I don't see them recruiting us to go to their colleges like Cuba is for Medical School.

    I always got the impression that Africans were indifferent to African Americans and in person they can act very arrogant and condescending. The ones that come here sometimes say the same things about African Americans that white people do, until one of those white people lets them know what the deal is. Then they go running for the nearest NAACP office.

    The only difference is that it hurts more coming from them. I expect that attitude from white people. Not other black people if we're supposed to be brother and sisters.

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  29. Personally, and this is just me, I'm still pro-Obama and I'm going to continue to support him and see how things play out.

    That being said.....

    I think Ankhesen's points still stand.

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  30. @ Anhk: It's just like in South Park. I mean, what's there to be excited about when you have to choose between a douche and a turd?

    I'm certainly not afraid to uproot myself if need be. I'd go further south, to Africa, to Asia, etc. Just places that aren't hella white. People come to the US for better opportunities or some mythical "white picket fence" fantasy but the streets are not really paved with gold.

    Also, don't you think that the mental conditioning from slavery would have prevented many people from leaving to Africa to form countries like Liberia? Not only are your people enslaved for over 400 years but you're continually likened to monkeys and your civilization is treated like the antithesis to great whiteness and it becomes a crime for you to become an educated and aware human being. Yes, people did in fact leave for Africa and other countries but there are mental shackles that likely prevented many more from abandoning this hell hole.

    I figure you can have a good life in any number of countries. The US does not have the monopoly on good standard of living and certainly not in activism and humane treatment of POCs.

    The democrats don't have to do shit to look better than the Republicans.

    For example, Republicans could say "the water is acid" and all the Democrats have to say is "the water is water." Republicans may sound crazy but Democrats usually just state the obvious. "Yeah, we need to support our unions and yeah the Republicans are crazy nuts that hate public services." Well then, whatcha gonna do about it? Both maintain the status quo.

    I swear, this lesser evil shit is what people have been saying for years. When are people going to sing a different tune?

    People just don't notice that everyday our rights to protest and actually participate in democracy are being taken away.

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  31. In Nigeria, an English-speaking West African country, where some Black Americans trace their ancestry, there is the "indigenous certificate". If it turns out you originally hail from the country, you don't have to worry about visas and extra paperwork; you're issued a certificate and basically considered one of the people after that. In other words, you're welcome home.

    So I'm supposed to somehow trace my ancestry through the entire 700 years of diaspora back to Nigeria? Assuming it can even be done and assuming the resources are there, which for the average African American is like trying to find a needle in a haystack, if the sincerity behind the gesture was real they wouldn't put all the responsibility on us.

    Hence my ambivalence about a back home to Africa movement. If you gave a child up for adoption whatever the circumstances if you wanted the child back in your life to make up for mistakes in the past YOU should be looking for the child you gave away. The child shouldn't have to find you.

    I know it's more complex than that. I know. But from an African American perspective I feel like I have no country and no people. It's unpleasant but it's real.

    If someone were to come to me at school and say they wanted me, an African American to be apart of their country and come back home because they missed us and needed I wouldn't pass up the chance though.

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  32. So I'm supposed to somehow trace my ancestry through the entire 700 years of diaspora back to Nigeria?

    Or genetic testing. Much simpler.

    And how come you skipped over Ghana?

    If you gave a child up for adoption whatever the circumstances if you wanted the child back in your life to make up for mistakes in the past YOU should be looking for the child you gave away. The child shouldn't have to find you.

    Sorry. *shakes head* Mm-mm. Not buying it.

    This is Black American conditioning talking. This is conveniently forgetting all the wars and insurrections Africans launched against the slave trade. This is forgetting about the devastating effects of invasion and colonization on the homeland, which crippled tribes and their governments from healing themselves, much less anyone else.

    This is conveniently ignoring that Ghana is opening up its country in reparations, while America's IQ plummets whenever you so much as mention slavery.

    This is just one of many excuses why Black Americans often try to go anywhere but home - and white people all across the globe can see that. This is why they know they can kick you, spit on you, and execute you, because they know you're to scared and brainwashed to leave.

    I know it's more complex than that. I know. But from an African American perspective I feel like I have no country and no people. It's unpleasant but it's real.

    No, it's not. It's simply refusing to find your home and go there. You'd rather stay fix a stolen land which enslaved you, than go home and rebuild your own house on your own land.

    Remember, Africans see things in terms of tribes and kinship. Those squiggly lines drawn across our continent are just an irritating reminder of foreign legacy.

    But you do you, and I'll do me. Come next year, I'm sitting the election out.

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  33. I mean seriously...how come none of you Black American patriots are taking Native American sentiments into account? This is their land, and the longer you stay on it playing by the white man's rules, the more you aid their colonization.

    Talk to my parents about colonization. They'll tell you some stories.

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  34. Recommended

    Ganvie, the Venice of Africa:

    "...Ganvié was founded by people in an effort to escape captivity and enslavement in the Americas.

    "According to Elisée Soumonni, “little attention is paid to the ways in which local African populations resisted enslavement, giving the impression that any form of resistance began on board slave ships or in the Americas.” I believe this also fuels erroneous suggestions that all African ethnic groups were comfortable with slavery and enslavement, not knowing what they were heading to in the Americas and only revolting after their enslavement. The existence of Ganvié stands as a testament to resistance to the transatlantic slave trade within African shores."

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  35. I'll be honest, the politics here have made me and my partner consider going to his country (the UK)...logistics have been the main issue. Having a US passport doesn't do very much for you when it comes to visas for other places.

    Now that you mention it, the US is due for some major shit to hit the fan and I'm hoping if nothing else, Europe can watch the US crash and burn with overly conservative policies that will give them a little pause to do the same.

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  36. I mean seriously...how come none of you Black American patriots are taking Native American sentiments into account? This is their land, and the longer you stay on it playing by the white man's rules, the more you aid their colonization.

    Talk to my parents about colonization. They'll tell you some stories.


    You mean... the parents that brought you here?

    And yet you're chastising African Americans for not busting our asses to go to a place your parents probably spent a considerable amount of time, energy, and money leaving?

    Please, help me understand that one.

    Your parents deliberately chose to come to America. Not some other country in Africa, like Ghana. The waited to get a visa and then went all the way across Africa and crossed an ocean to raise and bring you up. Um if what you say is true why did they do all that?

    See this is where Africans lose me. If they would just keep it real instead of patronizing us as if we're some dumb little children I think African Americans would be more open to the idea of "repatriating". We get enough of that from white people here we don't need it from our own people. Despite the alienation from the culture, and in many ways it is very alien to us, I think if Africans just kept it real and didn't talk down to us, we would be open to going back "home".

    We're a shrewd people, we know BS when we hear it. We have just as compelling reasons to stay in America as your parents had to leave Africa for here.

    It's good to know that Africans fought against the slave trade. But that doesn't change the fact that just as many participated in it, profited from it and aided Europeans in enslaving us, at least in the beginning. And the ones who weren't involved didn't do anything to stop it. They're just as responsible for the bullshit African Americans are in as the Europeans are. So I'm in no rush to run back to them.

    And as far as the Native Americans go, we didn't start that. We didn't even actively participate in that. And that was not done for our benefit. Any benefit African- Americans received was incidental and circumstantial and almost certainly negligible. Especially since we didn't come her by choice.

    So I have no idea what you mean as far as that goes. I think you're reaching here.

    I'm not voting this year either. I'm ready to do something. When people are ready to fight I will join in.

    Those black people started a riot and other people followed their example. I don't know what the fuck American's problem is. You should never resign yourself to a shitty situation.

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  37. Your parents deliberately chose to come to America. Not some other country in Africa, like Ghana. The waited to get a visa and then went all the way across Africa and crossed an ocean to raise and bring you up. Um if what you say is true why did they do all that?

    Because they made the wrong decision; they were young students in their 20s - que sera. Decades later, their views have drastically changed. My mother was the first to realize this; she's in the process of relocating to Nigeria. And my father has repeatedly expressed regret our being born and raised here.

    Like many Black Americans, many Africans are also under the impression that "moving out" was the smart thing to do, and that the US was the best choice, only to realize they were mistaken.

    It's good to know that Africans fought against the slave trade. But that doesn't change the fact that just as many participated in it, profited from it and aided Europeans in enslaving us, at least in the beginning. And the ones who weren't involved didn't do anything to stop it. They're just as responsible for the bullshit African Americans are in as the Europeans are.

    Which is it?

    So I'm in no rush to run back to them.

    Then as Obama would say, stop complaining.

    Any benefit African- Americans received was incidental and circumstantial and almost certainly negligible.

    You're running free across their land. Many Native Americans found themselves passing as black just to survive.

    Student of the World, your name is misleading. No offense, but your ignorance in these social and historical matters is downright shocking, especially since you previously reported being "hooked" on the Emigration series. Well, congrats; you're truly an American, whether non-POC accept you or not.

    Only Americans think it's okay to argue when not knowing the full story, and that it's okay to not have to know, care, or understand the views and feelings of an indigenous people.

    Go do some much needed research, "Student". Star here. And do not bother returning to the bar until you have.

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  38. Fear paralyzes a lot of people; keeps them firmly rooted in place. For so long, the US media has kept Americans believing that life here is so much better than life anywhere else; that if you up and bail on the US, you will be living in a third world country, no matter where it is. And since the majority of us actually BELIEVE the media, it keeps us in a veil of fear, keeps us supporting the status quo, thereby keeping us in place. Once a mind is enslaved, drones and sheeple result from it.

    I can't change the world, but I can certainly change what I do and how I respond. You already know I've got plans in place to move overseas, and even though I'm scared, I.AM.LEAVING. When I share my plans with others, I hear the same thing: "I can't do it; I've got too much here, I can't leave my family..." etc.

    I understand that, I do. But maybe my perspective allows me to see through all of that and recognize the underlying fear.

    Just my humble $.02.

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    @ "Student"

    Do not return to the bar until you've done some much needed research.

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  40. " They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world." John 17:16. At the time Jesus was on Earth. He didn't partake in any politics between Jews and Romans.

    With that being said, that's the reason why I don't vote, join the Army, Salute the flag, and join a political party. It's funny on hoe ministers and the church join themselves in political and government affairs.

    Also at one point when Obama was elected. I told the people at my old job that it's not going to last long. They laughed at me. That was three years ago. Now look at this country.

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  41. @ Ankh

    Yeah, I've heard about the Ghanian government making a formal apology for slavery (which the US didn't do, btw) and offering Black Americans land. To my recollection it's had decent success, with like 8,000-10,000 Black Americans permanently relocating there. Some even starting their own businesses there.

    I didn't know about the Nigerian visa thing though, but I've REALLY wanted to go to a few places in Nigeria for years now. With tourism in mind, but on a very long term basis. So it might be something I should look in to. Do you have any more information on this permanent visa?

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  42. Digital Coyote10/1/11, 11:52 PM

    This is their land, and the longer you stay on it playing by the white man's rules, the more you aid their colonization.

    When you're a genetic product of the thee Is (the indigenous, the imported, and the invaders), this revelation kind of makes the world stop. It's devastating when it hits you at the age of ten.

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  43. @ Franklin

    An easier way for you would be to get a job through UNICEF. I was browsing and there were countless jobs in Nigeria, of all types.

    Yeah, I've heard about the Ghanian government making a formal apology for slavery (which the US didn't do, btw) and offering Black Americans land. To my recollection it's had decent success, with like 8,000-10,000 Black Americans permanently relocating there. Some even starting their own businesses there.

    Thanks for noticing. *nods*

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  44. "I'm sick of this Repugnican vs. Dumbocrat argument. They're not doing shit except staying wealthy and staying in power. Fuck them both."

    fuck yes. and fuck yes to your comment about needing a revolution. because nothing is going to change until people give a shit, until they get angry enough to fight back goddammit.

    as a someone wiser than i once put it, a nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members.

    America, you've fucked over your women, your POC, your WOC, your children (and i'm not talking about abortion but about not making education a priority, worrying more about unborn fetuses than kids in poverty), the LGBT community, and your disabled.

    to those of you who tried to guilt Ankh into voting by saying blacks fought so hard for this right:

    They fought so she could have the chance to vote, not so she HAD to. Who the fuck you all think you are telling her she should feel grateful and vote? The point is that she has a choice. Fuck those shame and guilt games. I don't play those games.

    And I understand what position Obama is in too. A shitty one. But he needs to stop fucking with his supporters and realize that he aint never going to win no republicoon friends and to change this country as drastically as those conservative fucks did when they were in office and will do when the get into office again. MAKE A FUCKING DIFFERENCE, President OBAMA.

    what the fuck is wrong with people? Why everybody always tryin to place nice? Sometimes nice don't fucking cut it. Sometimes people too fucking stubborn to realize that we mean business and you can't continue to smile and stick a knife in my back. You got to realize one day, Imma MAKE this world what I want, if YOU won't do it and I'll do it in a way you can't ignore.

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  45. @ Sonic

    Thanks for understanding where I'm coming from.

    I can vote next year, but the best thing that will come from it is putting yet another ineffective politician in office. I don't want that. I want the people to get angry to do something new, something radical, something that will bring real and lasting change. Anything else, to me, is complacency.

    Voting is no longer the solution. It's not working. We need to do something new - end of story.

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  46. Looks like both our countries are going to have general election shenanigans at the same time (2012). We're also in the same boat with the 'two parties/no real choice' boat.

    Lord help us all.

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  47. "I want the people to get angry to do something "new, something radical, something that will bring real and lasting change. Anything else, to me, is complacency.

    Voting is no longer the solution. It's not working. We need to do something new - end of story."

    Well you're talking a revolution, if a peace approach don't work soon. Then a civil war will brake out. Very similar to the Bakumatsu period in Japan.

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  48. I also received similar messages of voting for Obama for historical precedent and "good of the nation" when he wasn't the only black candidate running. I voted for Cynthia McKinney, a Green Party candidate, when I was first able to vote and I don't regret that decision even if she didn't win. She does really good work even at the risk of her own life and livelihood. She makes mistakes like any other person which I hold her accountable for, but I consider her more radical than a centrist like Obama.

    I don't like those guilt tactics. For a while only half of black people (black men) were in some capacity capable of voting. But that did not come without challenges. Nowadays not only is voting a choice but you can generally vote without fear of intimidation, persecution and lynching. Why subject people to much of the same, in a sense, just because they don't want to vote the way that you want them to vote?

    Don't use fear and guilt to manipulate people. People vote for all kinds of reasons. If you want to affect results try intimidating some Republicans for a change. I'm personally not affiliated with either or the major parties . . . I'm not even sure if I'm registered with a third-party.

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  49. I'm personally not affiliated with either or the major parties.

    Which is another thing; I'm not either. Black voters here often find themselves joining one party more than the other simply because they're the lesser of two evils.

    Meanwhile, you've got 300 million people in this country, and only two major parties to choose from. How bullshit is that?

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  50. What are some good resources for reading up on the free land program in Ghana? I've been wanting to relocate for a long time and have read a lot of good things about Ghana.

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  51. @ Strange Sista

    I actually did a post on Ghana for my "Emigration" series.

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  52. This is something I'm considering as soon as I'm done with Med school. I've found I don't have a reason to be here, and the only reason to stay is family. I can always hop on a plane and visit them from where ever I relocate to.
    Every time they complain about this country, I mention they could always save their money and immigrate to another country. They usually just gawk at me for making such a suggestion.

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  53. Super Dreads10/5/11, 2:29 PM

    First of all I wanted to say hello (recent follower/lurker) and I'm glad I found this blog.

    When I first read this post I was shocked at your position Ankh about sitting this next election out but after a bit of thinking I realized I had similar views to yours during the last election.

    I loved the fact that a POC was making such waves in this nation and all the positive emotions it brought.

    Then one day I overhead some black classmates about how they were worried about quick the good vibes would leave and how the public would turn on Obama. For weeks I was conflicted on how the nation would deal with having a POC in charge of things and I realized it would end in a sh-t storm.

    Black people would be put in such a defensive corner whenever the president would come short of the miracles the public expected to perform. In the end I couldn't put my heart into voting...so I didn't. I still donated to the cause but in the bottom of my heart I didn't want him to be put through the mess that would follow.

    Even now I still don't want him to run for re-election. I want him to save his youth, his joy, and everything else for him and his family. Let the general public get who they want, and the eventual comeuppance that will come with it.

    As for the moving abroad part. At first I was scared, I mean as a black man I've always been told that there were only a few places I could live. But I've always wanted to see the world and I'd jump at the chance to live elsewhere (as long as it's cold...the heat will make me smack someone).

    Even now as I'm trying to finish my education I'm looking into where I could move. Part of me wants to do a stint in Germany just to see my birth town.

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  54. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

    The choice is between extreme right-wing (Republicans) or right-wing (Obama). If people choose right-wing (Obama) but dressed up as a Democrat, when the right-wing policies implemented by Obama make everything worse for the majority as they always do, the corporate media will say "well we tried the left-wing way of doing things and it has been a failure, now it's time to try some right-wing solutions" and the majority of the sheep will of course believe it and vote for the Republicans.

    So voting for the lesser of two evils only discredits left-wing politics in the mind of the low information masses and ensures a Republican in the white house anyway.

    Voting for Obama just delays the inevitable in this corrupt system and rewards Trojan horses like Obama for their deception treachery and broken promises.

    Trojan horses like Obama can do even more right-wing damage in some areas because hiding behind the Democrat title he can offer up social security to be cut just as only Nixon could go to China.

    I agree with Ankhesen Mié, I will not help to legitimize this charade they call democracy by voting, and I would not reward a black trojan horse who always has words of admonishment in his mouth for black people and only black people because of his complete disdain for us and our concerns.

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  55. In regards to leaving America for Africa... well I think you have to take into consideration Climate change. The climate has already started to collapse, it is predicted to hit the "Third World" hardest first. I also agree with the poster above that black people are in danger in the United States of America white people are stockpiling weapons like there is no tomorrow and they will turn on black people when the economy collapses. I don't think we are safe anywhere.

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