Fantasies of Annihilation

If you were to ask me what Hollywhite's crowning achievement is in the white saturation genre (yes, I'm calling it a genre), I would say it's the annihilation fantasy.  Whether the human race is attacked/invaded by zombies, machines, or aliens is actually irrelevant.  What's important is that the last surviving group of humans is either all-white, or mostly white with the POC getting offed in the beginning or early middle.

Nothing is an accident in these disunited states of ours; and in Hollywhite, nothing is coincidence.  Let's keep it real: there's a reason films like these are being churned out almost regularly right now, and the appeal to white American audiences is quite obvious.  In a world where their numbers are steadily falling, nothing seems better than spending an afternoon/evening watching a film where all those pesky billions and billions of people of color are wiped out (conveniently by someone else) and white folks the only ones left standing.

Doesn't even matter if the invasion results in massive devastation, plunging the whole world into an post-apocalyptic hell.  It's absolutely no surprise to Moi that most white Americans would prefer to live in hell alone rather than coexist somewhere habitable with POC.

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  1. This also coincides with White people in space. In both apocalyptic and space genres, pale people love to find themselves "The Last". I guess in a world where you are genetically recessive and can be wiped out at the drop of a sperm or ovum, the only way to truly even the playing field is to make sure you are "The Last" one standing.

    These movies also tend to portray liquid paper people as "Saviors". Even when history has shown them to be anything but. Self deluded much?

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  2. You know, I initially thought about bringing up the whole "savior" factor, but with the "last one standing" factor, "savior" is assumed.

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  3. not so fast

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1037705/

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  4. Hey! been lurking your blog and rlly enjoy!

    Another thing i notice about movies like this (and i have seen this one) they seem to think that the 3 or 2 PoC left and the white ppl remaining are going to skip off in the sunset and be best friends forgetting the racist society they emerged from. There are only 5 people and two of them are PoC..wonder who is going to be in charge now?? Just the implications (or my mind running wild) of that assume white people ultimate power once again with only to of "us" to contend with...i watched one film where about 7 ppl had to travel to the core of the earth...of course there was only one black person..who was the most skilled and was treated like a ugly step child and then murdered....and the two white lovers survive. Yawn.

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  5. @ jas0nburns

    That was a dreadful example. You should know better by now. You might as well list "I Am Legend" while you're at it.

    And for every 1-2 bad examples you list, you know POC are just going to come on here and list dozens of white annihilation fantasy films.

    *shakes head*

    Just when you think you're getting somewhere with a person....

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  6. @ Jas0n

    They killed that fool off! The "Last One Standing" was Mila Kunis!

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  7. That and you don't even want to get me started on the modern take on the "Magical Negro".

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  8. I HATE The "Magical Negro"!!! Some ole Bagger Vance/Green Mile/Defiant Ones/Oda May in Ghost/Eddie Murphy in Holy Man/Secret Life of Bees bullshit!!!! Seriously. Don't even get me started!!

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  9. Anyone notice the trend of mixed group of survivors save the day lead by the macho white male? Battle of Los Angeles fits this trope. Multiracial cast but the leader has to be the middle aged macho white guy.

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  10. @ Ank.

    Oh yeah I forgot about I am legend. You didn't like that movie?!?!

    I shouldn't have said "not so fast" because i'm not really disputing that you may be on to something with the idea that whites fantasize about a POC free future. I just don't really think there's a strong connection with that and these movies.

    Also, I hope you don't need me to agree with everything you say, or that if I disagree it's out of disrespect.

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  11. "That and you don't even want to get me started on the modern take on the "Magical Negro". "

    yeah I noticed that to. But my thought was that as he was the main character it was OK to be magical. Usually The Magical Negro is there to help the white hero on his/her quest.

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  12. The Book of Eli is a noble savage movie. The man of color sacrificing himself for the greater good. (Whites) As was I am Legend. In both instances they sacrifice themselves for what remains of the white race. In the Book of Eli I kept asking myself, "Where are the black women/children?" Why no love interest? Moreover, the Hughes brothers made sure to keep the relationship between Eli and Solara 'sexless'.

    Will Smith's ‘love interest’ was his dog, Sam. His family is killed off early in the movie. Something tells me whites empathized with the dog more than they did the black hero. In both cases it could be implied that upon the death of Eli and Smith's character they were the last Negros on the face of the earth; allowing the white race will live on.

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  13. In support of your premise: One of my favorite old movies "Logan's Run". Upon reflection I don't think there was a single BP in that one. Which is significant because you get the impression that the society in that film was highly engineered and purposely selected in some way. Ageism was at the center of the narrative but I wonder if the racism aspect was deliberate or subconscious.

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  14. This is the main reason why I HATE these type of films. I just saw the one with Nicholas Cage, Knowing. The ENTIRE earth got obliterated by a sun spot and guess who survived? Two little white kids that were "chosen" by the aliens to restart the human race. Ugh, indeed.

    There was one zombie flick were all the black people in one town got together and was holding their own, of course as soon as they let the white folks in, somehow a zombie popped in and destroyed everything. Ugh again.

    Resident evil ticked me off, Mike Epps character managed to survive one film, but gets turned in the next one and Ashanti's character gets pecked to death by zombie birds. Really?!

    Even if people bring up I Am Legend. What happened once he rescued the white people? His home got jacked up and he got killed, but yet those two got to skip off to the happy land with the results of his hard work.

    If anything these movies are teaching me, if the apocalypse ever break out, stay away from white people at all cost, LOL

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  15. I noticed that trend in Hollywood too which helps make their media too predictable if not maddening.

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  16. @cheekymonkeyboo...
    “...of course there was only one black person..who was the most skilled and was treated like a ugly step child and then murdered....and the two white lovers survive. Yawn.”

    You’re speaking of the The Core: It wasn’t so much that he was ‘murdered’ but rather ‘he sacrificed himself’. Once again the noble Negro (smarter than all of them put together) is apparently the only one who knows how to deactivate a safety switch that holds the other compartments together. His martyrdom provides the means by which the remaining whites save the world.

    In Battle: Los Angeles, the world is under attack from hordes of Alien invaders. Civilization as we know it is on the brink of annihilation. All hope is lost!! But it’s the noble Latino 2nd Lieutenant who sacrifices himself for his troops. Forcing the white Staff Sergeant to take charge and become the hero he was destined to be. He’s even likened to John Wayne in one scene. Now you can’t get more heroic than that.

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  17. @ jas0nburns

    Also, I hope you don't need me to agree with everything you say, or that if I disagree it's out of disrespect.

    Bordering slightly on condescending now....

    This isn't even about agreeing or disagreeing. This is about yet another blatantly obvious pattern in Hollywood. Notice how the POC on here not only immediately understood what I meant, but had examples at the ready.

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  18. jas0nburns said...
    In support of your premise: One of my favorite old movies "Logan's Run". Upon reflection I don't think there was a single BP in that one. Which is significant because you get the impression that the society in that film was highly engineered and purposely selected in some way. Ageism was at the center of the narrative but I wonder if the racism aspect was deliberate or subconscious.

    Its one of my favorites as well. Consequently, when whites hold power lunches to decide they’re going to make a movie, Minorities are the furthest thing from their minds. It’s a conditioned train of thought from growing up in a world absent of blacks. The studio heads are already thinking of some blonde babe they can cast as the romantic interest and some rugged hunk with golden locks to cast as the protagonist. The secondary characters are cast next; then one or two token minorities to add a little diversity. If you reside outside the US your thinking might tend to be a bit more inclusive as with the Matrix; but even then the savior was still cast as white.

    If you grow up in a neighborhood that’s all-white - attend primarily white schools; worship in all-white churches, you’re thinking tends to be framed by that context. You’re unaware of your privilege; moreover, ‘your privilege’ keeps you blind to your whiteness. You’re just an average ‘normal guy’ who’s looking for other normal people (like yourself) to be in your movie. And because you see yourself as ‘an individual’, you’re utterly blind to the common thread that obliges you to think and act like other whites. We blacks see it as clear as day- but white people are not convinced.

    Privilege enables whites to live amongst their own- socialize amongst their own, without ever having to come in contact with a non-white. Moreover, they don’t give the lack of minorities in their world much thought. I have heard of instances where white children stare at black people in stores because they’ve never seen a black person ‘up close’. I had a young white guy tell me in the front seat of an ambulance years ago, that this was the closest he’s ever been to a black person. The young man thought it important enough to tell me that. So when some white hotshot director decides to make a movie, naturally and instinctively he will think of people who remind him of himself.

    Logan’s Run was an idealized version of a utopian society visualized by people who probably didn’t have many black friends. Chris Rocks comments are just as telling today as they were back then. He said, “All my Black friends have lots of White friends. All my White friends have one Black friend.” I’m an online gamer and all the young men/women I play against are lily white. They readily volunteer how they grew up without any black friends; not a one. Then they go on to proclaim proudly, how I’m their only black friend. I shake my head sometimes.

    “Ageism was at the center of the narrative but I wonder if the racism aspect was deliberate or subconscious.”

    I think is a little of both

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  19. I had a young white guy tell me in the front seat of an ambulance years ago, that this was the closest he’s ever been to a black person. The young man thought it important enough to tell me that.

    ...I’m an online gamer and all the young men/women I play against are lily white. They readily volunteer how they grew up without any black friends; not a one. Then they go on to proclaim proudly, how I’m their only black friend.


    *shudder* When will white people learn how creepy that makes them sound? Only a very privileged individual would think something like that was "cool" to broadcast to world. Never having met POC is not something you say; it's something you play off.

    Otherwise you look extremely creepy.

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  20. @Ankhesen Mié...
    "... Never having met POC is not something you say; it's something you play off."

    Amen...
    True story by the way.
    They're particularity honest after they've had a few beers in them. Then I'm ‘brother’ this and ‘brother’ that; with a whole lot of, "I love you man" thrown in for good measure. I'm not saying they're bad people, but you know as you listen to them that they're in another world. And don't even bring up racism. I tried it once. Once....

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  21. "I think it's a little of both …"
    Excuse me.

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  22. Then I'm ‘brother’ this and ‘brother’ that; with a whole lot of, "I love you man" thrown in for good measure.

    *sound of flesh crawling*

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  23. So weird you wrote this post, I just finished watching a anime that was recommended called High School of the Dead about zombies coming to a highschool and start killing people and then a group of friends start kicking arse in all types of ways. It is quite good although I could do without the fan service

    Then i started thinking about the all of the zombie movies and tv shows like the new one The Walking Dead.

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    In this genre POC are either dead, dying and will die. And the most popular way for them to go is by sacrifcing themselves to save whites

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  24. Aiyo said...
    In this genre POC are either dead, dying and will die. And the most popular way for them to go is by sacrificing themselves to save whites.

    That reminds me of the low budget Sci-Fi flick, A Sound of Thunder. The young black lab assistant Payne, is the first to die; sacrificing himself by holding off a horde of prehistoric baboons. He buys the remaining whites enough time to get back to the laboratory. There, the remaining white hero manages to go back in time to prevent the extinction of the human race. The directors always find reasons why the remaining whites are so integral to the plot, and why it makes so much sense for the person of color to surrender their lives first.

    Basically Hollywood is saying, "you're not that important and your lives are not as valuable as whites. These pretty white kids have so much to live for. Surely you minorities can see that."

    I'd almost rather they stop pretending and just say "we don't want POC in our movies m'kay? We'd much rather make movies By white people, For white people." At least then this whole film and entertainment thing would make sense.

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  25. I see that I've missed out on a lot of stuff. I totally got to catch up.

    [i] I just finished watching a anime that was recommended called High School of the Dead [/i]

    I seen I believe 2 episodes of that and I thought it was funny. I will watch the rest when I get time.

    Will you guys hold it against me if I say I haven't seen I am Legend. I love vampire movies and will smith but, I wasn't really interested in this movie sorry!

    As Aiyo mentioned, walking dead is another example. The black chick decided to stay in lab with the doctor and end her life because the world had ended. Why couldn't she had been the one to change her mind at the last minute. I know its probably written like that in the comics which I'm trying not to read cause I know I'm going to pick at the show if I do. I was sad because she gave up.

    I was actually surprised that mike epps was in RE because I was like why cast a comedian? RE isn't meant to be funny, its a very serious horror series.

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  26. but you got to give it up to Dawn of the Dead right? Strong black man survives and rides off into the sunset with WW. And that film was really a prototype for most of this genre. I wonder what happened.

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  27. While watching Dawn of the Dead I distinctly remember how unusual it seemed in terms of the story arc of the black main character. Another example of how we have regressed in many ways.

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  28. "Basically Hollywood is saying, "you're not that important and your lives are not as valuable as whites. These pretty white kids have so much to live for. Surely you minorities can see that."

    That's what it seems like to me as well. I never noticed how common the sacrifice thing is but now thinking back it really is amazingly common. I imagine the filmmakers think that they are paying blacks a compliment by doing this, I mean WWJD right?

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  29. Coming out of Lurkdom.

    citeseein said...

    As Aiyo mentioned, walking dead is another example. The black chick decided to stay in lab with the doctor and end her life because the world had ended. Why couldn't she had been the one to change her mind at the last minute. I know its probably written like that in the comics which I'm trying not to read cause I know I'm going to pick at the show if I do. I was sad because she gave up.

    Actually I have read The Walking Dead: Compendium One and the Comic is slightly different from the TV show. In the comic you have 3 main black characters that are a major part in the books, along with the Asian guy Glenn. The two black people they have on the tv show are not the characters in the book.

    1. Tyreese- Who is a natural leader and forms a strong alliance with Rick.

    2. Michonne- The woman is a bad ass warrior. The first time they see her she got 2 Zombies on a chain leash that follow behind her(her boyfriend & husband) and she carries a katana.
    http://appasylum.net/images/2011/01/michonne-walking-dead-comic-cutting-off-zombies-head.jpg

    3. The Jones Family- Morgan & Dwayne. The father and son who saved Rick from the Zombies in the beginning.

    Sorry for the long post, but love your blog.

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  30. I never noticed how common the sacrifice thing is but now thinking back it really is amazingly common.

    See what I mean?

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  31. @ citeseein

    I heard about the katana wielding black woman, if she is not in season 2 somebody is gonna get a hurt (sorry I was watching Russell Peters again)

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  32. "See what I mean? "

    yeah, I guess my problem is I keep trying to apply logic lol. like "why would white people do that? it doesn't make any sense" but that's futile I suppose. nothing about it makes sense.

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  33. Oh but there's more...
    Joe Morton plays Miles Dyson in " Terminator 2: Judgment Day ". He’s a brilliant scientist “with a wife and child,” but he sacrifices his life for Sarah and John Connor so that they can meet their destiny. Likewise, in the science fiction flick, “Virus” starring Jamie Lee Curtis and one of them Baldwin brothers. The black guy (Richie) inexplicably loses his mind and then disappears. Later we find him half-crazed, working on a contraption that allows for only two people to escape the ship. I’m sure you can guess the rest.

    In both cases the situations are dire. If the token minority doesn't hurry up and die (and take others with him) the white protagonist doesn't come into his/her own. Such selfishness could result in the extinction of the entire human race. Somebody's got to live and dammit someone has to die. I guess you can say one thing for minorities who sacrifice themselves... they die with a grandiloquence.

    Jas0nburns said...
    "I imagine the filmmakers think that they are paying blacks a compliment by doing this, I mean WWJD right?"

    Because they sacrifice their lives for whites? How is this seen as a compliment? It’s a slap in the face if you ask me. Course then again-- perhaps in their narrow, warped-sense of liberalistic reality… maybe so. But what's wrong with a person of color saving the world? Where’s the sin in being full-fledged allies in man's redemption? When did the hero scenario become the exclusive property of whites?

    @Jas0nburns
    "... nothing about it makes sense."

    Ahh but it makes perfect sense to the whites who direct the film; cast for the film and ultimately act in the film. It makes perfect sense to them. A commenter Writes:

    "Nah you’re all getting at this from the wrong angle. There’s a lot more lead actors who are white, and then to balance the cast they need minorities on the side (they’re called “minorities” for a reason). Now you don’t want to kill off your lead actor because americans wouldn’t get it, but you do want to kill off some of the support cast to build emotion and fear."

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  34. Yeah, I've noticed it. Even when WP try to do something different, it ends up the same. It's like WM can't let go of absolute domination and feelings of control over the fate of mankind. Take H.G. Wells's The Time Machine. The 2002 version of it (directed by Wells's great-grandson) showed a sort of Utopian society with no WP. I was impressed! But then I realized that they were all being oppressed by some creature whose leader was of course, a mutated white man. And to their rescue was coming a WM on his own selfish mission. He was the reluctant leader because all those POC just didn't have the balls to ask questions. *smfh* Even when we try to do it right, we still revert back to the standby.

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  35. @ Victoria

    Another excellent example.

    And to their rescue was coming a WM on his own selfish mission. He was the reluctant leader because all those POC just didn't have the balls to ask questions.

    Ah, yes...the "reluctant" white leader. Everything's so convenient in these films! POC being wiped out by "someone else", and white heroes who "don't want" to be in charge but always are nonetheless.

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  36. @ Gibson

    Even T2! I thought that movie could do no wrong. this is starting to creep me out. The sacrifice thing just seems so random it's crazy how it just repeats over and over. also creepy how I didn't notice it (shivvers)

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  37. I wonder if it's a subtle atonement thing. Like, "finally blacks appreciate everything we do for them" or something.

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  38. Even Sucker Punch falls into this trap

    From What Tami Said:

    "Conversely, it is the women of color in the film--Amber (Jamie Chung) and Blondie (Vanessa Hudgens)--who are drawn as the flattest of the flat characters, with no back stories or desires, but to serve Baby Doll. And it is those women whose lives are unwillingly sacrificed (literally) so that one pretty, blonde, white woman can live the life she deserves."

    http://www.whattamisaid.com/2011/03/sucker-punched-by-sucker-punch-girls.html#more

    And in Pixar's Wall-E, the earth is uninhabitable so what's left of humanity remains on the Axiom, a spaceship.

    Guess who's in the majority.

    One might argue that other countries probably had their own ships, but from what I remember, they didn't appear in the story. It seems that white america alone had the sense to bail.

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  39. it shows that they are natural leaders *rollseyes*

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  40. @ jas0nburns

    I wonder if it's a subtle atonement thing.

    More like a belief-in-white-superiority thing.

    The sacrifice thing just seems so random it's crazy how it just repeats over and over. also creepy how I didn't notice it

    But expected.

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  41. check this out

    http://www.moviedeaths.com/categories/self-sacrifice/

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  42. Jas0nburns said...
    The sacrifice thing just seems so random it's crazy how it just repeats over and over. “Also creepy how I didn't notice it”

    But telling…

    Random would imply "accidental," or something brought on by a fortuitive chain of events. But Ankhesen Mié hit it when she said, "But Expected." More often than not, white people go to the movies to see ' themselves' reflected on the silver screen. They’ve come to ‘Expect’ a white central character; a person they can readily identify with. Oftentimes studio heads expect a white protagonist before greenlighting a film.

    To many whites- it’s simply the natural order of things. A random occurrence conveniently lets those in power off the hook.

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  43. Victoria said...
    It's like WM can't let go of absolute domination and feelings of control over the fate of mankind.

    Like it or not its his burden. In this context the white race views itself as the reluctant hero. Forced by circumstances to snatch the reigns of power for the good of all mankind.

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  44. Lol. If white people think that POC would sacrifice themselves in the face of an apocolypse for the greater good of whites they're going to be disappointed.

    I.e. That scene in the South Park movie when the whites planned to use the black people as a shield in the war. It didn't work out that way, tough.

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  45. If white people think that POC would sacrifice themselves in the face of an apocolypse for the greater good of whites they're going to be disappointed.

    *church voice* "Weeeeell...." Reminds me of something Katt Williams said.

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  46. "Random would imply "accidental," or something brought on by a fortuitive chain of events."

    I didn't mean that it was random that POC would be generally marginalized on film. One would expect that from white filmmakers, and yes that's a superiority thing. I was just trying to figure out why sacrifice in particular is so often employed as a device. I suppose it's because it's a go-to way to resolve a non-central character, and POC are often cast in secondary roles for the reasons M. Gibson stated.

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  47. Jas0nburns said...
    I was just trying to figure out why sacrifice in particular is so often employed as a device.

    I think because traditionally it pays dividends at the box office. White audiences seem to respond favorably to scenarios where the earth is in peril and the white protagonist is the last one standing. In the movies, whites rely on ingenuity and critical thinking. They calmly and judiciously problem solve to defeat the threat. Whereas non-whites are alleged to react emotionally and irrationally; they’re often portrayed as being undisciplined psychologically. Consequently they die first because they’re perceived as being ineffectual. Moreover, because of that Empathy thing, whites have a vested interest in what happens to the hero/damsel.

    Consider the FPS video games; most if not all are based upon a heroic white male archetype. Both The Doom franchise and the, “Call of Duty” property propounds the premise that only a white soldier with wits can prevail. Video Games being used to recruit young white males seem to imply it’s their responsibility to lead the world. World War II was viewed by many as a white man’s war. This ethos lodged itself deep within the American narrative. The vital role non-whites played became footnotes.

    Viewed as ancillary personnel ; non-whites were used primarily for logistical support, while the brave and dauntless warriors fought for our freedom. So while Audie Murphy, Gary Cooper- and John Wayne fought for liberty and freedom on the silver screen, non-whites were either portrayed as hostile savages or buffoonish cowards.

    Studio execs tapped into this warped sense of romanticism, churning out films based in part on widely-held racial attitudes of the time. These same deeply-rooted biases often shape how movies are made today; without anyone being the wiser.

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  48. I still maintain that I Am Legend was great up to the point when that woman and boy showed up. then it went straight to hell.

    I loved Wall-E for the robots, but it got boring to me once the human element entered the equation (didn't help that they were literally couch potatoes; I mean, damn!).

    I'm still pissed that they killed the ONE black dude left on earth in the 'Planet of the Apes' remake. Yea...somehow black folk just up and vanished, save one, once the apes starting running shyt. Now that I think about it, POC were scarce as Irish Spring in that movie - period.

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  49. ~ I was just trying to figure out why sacrifice in particular is so often employed as a device.

    ~ White audiences seem to respond favorably to scenarios where the earth is in peril and the white protagonist is the last one standing.


    Whites also have this disturbing fetish of needing to see ever-loyal POC sacrifice themselves for white people. Some might argue it's the whole cannon fodder/red shirt issue, but I think there's also a need to see that POC bear white people no ill will. And apparently the best way for white writers (who probably don't know any POC very well) to convey that message is to show POC dying over and over and over again for the sake of white people.

    It's almost too pathetic to be offensive.

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  50. Which brings me to another issue.

    White writers need to just go ahead and give up on making films to help racially - and I use this term loosely - "educate" white audiences. It's the blind leading the blind.

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  51. "If white people think that POC would sacrifice themselves in the face of an apocolypse for the greater good of whites they're going to be disappointed."

    *IS DEAD*


    @K

    Thought this might be of interest to you: http://stonetelling.com/

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  52. Ankhesen Mié said...
    White writers need to just go ahead and give up on making films to help racially - and I use this term loosely - "educate" white audiences. It's the blind leading the blind.

    Whites often screw up their teaching moment especially when it has to do with diversity on film. They missed another opportunity with Mutant Chronicles. The POC were killed off so fast I had to ask myself, why cast them at all if you’re going to knock em off so quickly? Course it premiered on the SYFY channel so I can’t say I was surprised.

    Whites find it almost impossible to tell a ‘racially uplifting story’ without misappropriating the narrative. It’s always about ‘Their’ journey and ‘Their’ growth. Moreover, a lack of Empathy impedes their ability to genuinely weigh themselves through the eyes of POC. Emphasis tends to be placed upon the collective nobility of whites in the guise of reluctant hero. As a plot device the unwavering faithfulness of ‘the other’ works because it absolves whites of guilt and culpability. Such films tend to draw whites to the theater like magnets.

    If whites truly strive for diversity on film then let them prove it. Course, I don’t think they can. Just like politicians; whites tend to misrepresent themselves both in word and in deed. “Such things take time,” they say. “America is not ready for it,” they stress. Typical used car salesmen is what they are.

    In, The Princess and the Frog, Disney tried to teach diversity by injecting a blonde blue-eyed white woman in the narrative of a black woman. Alternatively, in Disney’s follow-up genre piece, Tangled; there were no black characters; not even amongst the towns folk. So much for diversity.

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  53. Whites find it almost impossible to tell a ‘racially uplifting story’ without misappropriating the narrative. It’s always about ‘Their’ journey and ‘Their’ growth.

    Ohhhhh, Lawd yes.

    Moreover, a lack of Empathy impedes their ability to genuinely weigh themselves through the eyes of POC.

    Yes, but I think it's mostly fear. We've seen how white people react - here and elsewhere on the net - when POC get honest. They sputter in rage, calling us "racist" (when they don't even really know what the word means), and throwing the kinds of tantrums which would make a 4-year-old stop and take notes.

    If white writers really wanted to do such a film properly, they'd have to not only do their research, but incorporate actual POC writers. Which would mean hearing a LOT of things they'd rather not, and ending up with a film where they're not portrayed as heroes and gods.

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  54. Ankhesen Mié said...
    If white writers really wanted to do such a film properly, they'd have to not only do their research, but incorporate actual POC writers. Which would mean hearing a LOT of things they'd rather not, and ending up with a film where they're not portrayed as heroes and gods.

    lol
    Talk about Mission Impossible. But I concur...
    That would mean giving up creative control and I can’t see conscientious whites doing that. It seems the only time non-white writers are hired for projects is when whites want to get their urban slang right. If for instance Roots had been written by all black writers, I dare say such a depiction of The Middle Passages never would have aired. The staff would have been branded as indignant racists and the project shelved indefinitely.

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  55. @ modest-goddess:

    Wasn't that a bitch? I mean, the old white guy wasn't supposed to be in charge anyway, it was Martinez's job. But then Martinez makes the sacrifice and white guy is in charge yet again.

    I liked that movie for the diversity, but I later realized the POCs tended to die more often and they didn't get to talk as much or have as much of a personality or central role toward the end of the movie. And the lone Asian guy somehow dies/disappears on the highway and nobody seems sad that he died.

    Both latino guys got killed, minus little Hector. The black guys lived. Michelle Rodriguez got some decent speaking lines. But it was still mostly screentime and speaking time for the white guys.

    It disturbed me. Given how diverse the party was at the beginning that very few white guys died . . .

    @ Jade Star

    Hahaha!! Aint that the truth. POCs should just know once the apocalypse starts they should avoid white people like the plague.

    Have any of you seen Boy Eats Girl? It's the only movie I can think of where there is a black/biracial female love interest in a zombie-infested setting. It's set in Ireland and there is a white male protagonist. I thought of seeing it b/c it came up on my Netflix. But later I found out the guy had a thing for the black chick and I was surprised. I was like "how the hell did this get made?" The girl didn't have the best fleshing out of character, compared to this one bitchy chick who eventually got killed later in the movie. But it was still pretty cool.

    And there was this movie about a prehistoric fish and the bayou which had a black hero and eventual black female love interest. It was on SciFi (why the hell is it SyFy?).

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  56. Marona,

    I think that movie was called Frankenfish. The 'smexy', K.D. Aubert was the love interest. I hate it when people try to compare her beautiful lips to Angelina Jolie. As if zero black women had lips before Angelina hit the scene.

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  57. @ Yssa

    I hate it when people try to compare her beautiful lips to Angelina Jolie. As if zero black women had lips before Angelina hit the scene.

    Preach.

    @ Marona

    Have any of you seen Boy Eats Girl? It's the only movie I can think of where there is a black/biracial female love interest in a zombie-infested setting. It's set in Ireland and there is a white male protagonist. I thought of seeing it b/c it came up on my Netflix. But later I found out the guy had a thing for the black chick and I was surprised. I was like "how the hell did this get made?"

    That what I wondered about "28 Days Later" with Cillian Murphy & Naomie Harris. They even kiss.

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  58. Which is another thing...once again, Europeans are way ahead of Americans.

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  59. This is a well known fact. Nothing new here. It's all down to "black guy dies first" and its variations.

    To be honest, 28 Days Later is the only movie of this sorts I can think of, that has a prominent POC character (a black woman). True, she is the only prominent POC character, but there aren't many characters at all, AND she is... Well, she is a great character, imo. For a moment, it seems like Selena is just another "strong black woman" but no, she is a well developed character. She is brave, but human, and she both kicks ass and is allowed to show her vulnerable side (and to cry).

    And she also gets the guy. Yes, all we see is kiss... but what a kiss!

    (Definitely one of my favourite movie couples)

    Other than her, I can't think of any decent examples.

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  60. Excellent article. When I was in class, i showed my prof my script. He said that, where's the white people, the whole class laughed. But he also added that in Sci-fi films they there was rarely a multicultural characters.

    In the movies that I've seen where the main characters can be POC (Push, I'm Number Four and many others)
    I had some problems with the people on this board about a show called tower prep
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Main.TowerPrep#28934

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  61. Just saw another example of the token BP sacrificing himself. Ving rhames in Pirhana. It was extra bad because it's really the only thing he does in the whole movie

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  62. @ Yssa:

    Frankenfish! Thanks for reminding me. :)

    En serio? Oh my god. Like, I don't hate Angelina Jolie but I hate what she has come to symbolize regarding the features coveted by whites that naturally occur in most non-white people. And I don't understand why she had to portray a mixed race woman by blackfacing herself. I mean, the woman portrayed did not have a problem with it but still, they couldn't have asked Thandie Newton or someone else? There are tones of very light black women with straight to loosely curled hair who could use some work.

    @ Ankhesen Mié:

    Almost forgot about 28 Days Later. That movie is the shit. That kiss gave me the chills. My heart was racing as the guy was cutting through those zombies. He was very cute and I loved Naomie's character. And that movie was rather subtle with regards to race. Naomie got called "the black one" when they were contemplating raping her and the little white girl. The movie is so captivating and scary to me. I want to watch it again and again!

    @ Javan:

    No offense to your teacher but he probably hasn't been watching much Sci-fi. Yes, overall it is overwhelming white but I've seen quite a few films with non-white and mixed race characters. And books with predominantly or exclusively non-white characters do exist. He probably can't fathom it b/c he's had the privilege of being saturated with all white representation all the time.

    But tell me, who in Push and I'm Number Four are POC? I didn't see either and I kind of wanted to avoid the latter film b/c it didn't seem like it would be an interesting story.

    @ jas0nburns:

    Aside from being a terrible film I really hated that they neglected Ving Rhames' character. I love the man. Rosewood forever!

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