"At last, my love has come along...."

*sigh* Trekkie 'til I die, y'all.  Might as well give in.

From Filmonic:
Last month J.J. Abrams said he was still waiting for Damon Lindelof, Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman to submit their script to Paramount before deciding whether he’ll direct the Star Trek sequel or not. If they want to hit their June 2012 release date they’ll need to get a suitable draft in pretty soon, and that seems to be the aim as a tweet from Orci suggests their deadline is sometime next month.
From @boborci via Trek Movie:

aiming to turn in first full draft of Star Trek in six weeks or so.
If the script is filmable we should be hearing news on whether Abrams will direct sometime in April. A summer shoot seems likely, but according to Trek Movie that might “slip a bit” in order to accommodate Chris Pine’s schedule. Paramount pushed Star Trek back from December 2008 to May 2009, so there is a possibility they’ll push the sequel back if needed.

As well as Pine, Zoe Saldana, Zachary Quinto, Karl Urban, Simon Pegg, Anton Yelchin and John Cho are all expected to return.
I'll admit the white female reaction to Star Trek (2009) got really old, really quick.  And let's not even get started on the subsequent whitening of Uhura.  But I was watching the film again with some black women this weekend (lil sis included), and I've decided I can't wait for this film to hurry up and come out so them racist heiffers can just sip that hella haterade and go fuck themselves while they're at it.

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  1. I'm skeptical. I hope he directs it, but I have script concerns. Part of me is of the belief that the screenwriters are going to break up Spock and Uhura. If so, I hope Abrams vetoes it. He wasn't afraid to buck convention before.

    But either way, I'm gonna see the flick.

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  2. I recall reading that Orci & Kurtzman intend to further explore their relationship. Naturally, that announcement did NOT go over well with fans.

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  3. Simply not liking Spock and Uhura together does not necessarily a racist make.

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  4. @ Doodling

    It does one when the speaker in question is saying shit like Uhura forced herself on him, is bossy, is pushy, and has hair that's too pretty to be a black girl's.

    Desist while we're ahead; I've been there, rolled my eyes at that. And FYI, this blog is only interested in S/U supporters.

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  5. I don't think that Uhura forced herself on him; she's gorgeous and clearly kickass (I have a crush on her myself), and if anything, SPOCK was off base by not putting her on the best ship in the first place. Sure, she said a couple of unkind things, but so did every other character. That doesn't make her "pushy."

    Seriously, people are saying that she can't be black because she has straight hair? Have they never heard of the fact that Africa is made up of DIFFERENT ethnic groups, with different features and genes? Jeez. One of my floormates is from Ethiopia and she has straight hair.

    I'm not trying to get into a ship war at all. Just saying, liking Uhura and not liking Spock/Uhura is possible, too. :)

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  6. Just saying, liking Uhura and not liking Spock/Uhura is possible, too. :)

    And I'm saying, on this blog, we're only talking about liking them. I'm old and set in my ways where those two are concerned.

    So...you have a crush on Zoe? How long has that be going on?

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  7. All right, fair enough. I'll shut up about shipping. And no way are you old.

    About a year and a half, I'd say. Beautiful AND nerdy? Totally my type!

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  8. Thank you! I've been waiting for some kind of update on this movie. And I'm y'all...I'm spoiled now...the next movie will probably be spoiled for me if Spock and Uhura are broken up. If that's the case, I'll probably only see it once instead of...the many, many times that I saw the first one.

    I sincerely hope that Orci and Kurtzman don't disappoint, and that JJ directs (even after that abomination of a TV show).

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  9. One of the things that attracted me to Star Trek wasn’t the smooth lines of the Warp Nacelles, or the possibility of manned space flight to other galaxies. But rather it was Lieutenant Nyota Uhura’s thighs. The fact that a voluptuous black woman was featured on a show where her sexuality was purposefully ‘toned down’ compared to the white/green/blue women Kirk laid regularly spoke volumes. The character of Spock wasn’t known for showing affection openly for any woman. However, I do remember an episode where he seduces a female romulan commander, and I remember how his 7 year itch brought him within an inch of killing his captain on Vulcan. But for me back in the late 60’s, watching that show on a black and white television, it was for Uhura’s iconic black beauty.

    Compare the pictures highlighted in this thread. Look how nubile, black and ‘Thick’ Uhura is compared to her thin- frail (white-male-friendly) counterpart. Young white males are still the target demographic of science fiction cinema so the black woman they cast had to be attractive in a white male sort of way. She had to be easy on white male eyes; a black version of Linda Hamilton.

    The Uhura of the 60’s version spoke Swahili- danced and sings in more than one episode. She wore her blackness like she wore that Starfleet regulation miniskirt and she owned all of the women on that show including Yeoman Janice Rand. Notice every time the camera cut to Yeoman Rand she's always bathed in a luminescent glow? That fact that Spock chooses to show affection for a black woman without the excuse of his being caught in the throes of ‘Pon farr’ is what really pissed white girls off. The fact that Kirk had to be forced to kiss Uhura when he wouldn’t have considered it otherwise again shows the fear whites had about black sexuality.

    This is in the same era where Harry Belafonte & Petula Clark hold hands while singing a song on network television. Whites were afraid of black sexuality then, just as they are today. The disparaging comments uttered regularly about our First Lady say as much.

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  10. Okay so when I saw the link about whitening Uhura, I thought you meant erasing her heritage or altering her personality or some ish like that. So imagine my shock when I clicked it and read that fanfic writers were actually changing her fucking ethnicity.

    ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!!!!!!

    All I hope is that they continue to focus on Uhura and not bring in Nurse Chapel or a new love interest for Kirk as the new alpha female to steal all of her airtime because you know that shit happened too often.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go punch someone in the fucking throat.

    Change that sistah's ethnicity. WTF is this shit?

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  11. All I wanna know is- do they get a sex scene?

    And I think Uhura and Sulu would make a cute decent fling.

    LOL What did Sulu say in the Mirror universe?

    "Still no interest Uhura? I could...change your mind ^^. Is the captain here? Is Spock here? *Laughs* When the cat's is away-"

    That would be awesome to see with Zaldana and Cho.

    I think that would be an interesting love triangle, and it would piss off all those people that don't want to see a black woman getting chased by men. *evil laughter*

    In this scenario Spock could lose his cool again and try to beat the mess out of mirror Sulu for trying to take his woman. Cho could pimp it like nobody's buisness, while macking on Zaldana. A few obligatory on screen kisses, necking.

    It's win-win!

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  12. Lol. People still try to say that Zoe's not black. I hear specifically, "She's not black! She's latina." I tell them latino isn't a race and that you can be %100 black AND %100 latino at the same time, but some people just can't comprehend that. Anyway I hope they don't break up the couple a la Dee and Anders from BSG (I can't even with that whole mess...).

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  13. BlackPeopleSufferFromPTSD2/15/11, 12:16 PM

    SOME people
    *purposefully scratching the BACK part of my hand*
    don't understand why OTHER people are so obsessed with us.
    *meaningfully scratching the palm side of my hand*

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  14. People still try to say that Zoe's not black. I hear specifically, "She's not black! She's latina."

    "Yo soy una mujer negra."

    Um. Yeah.

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  15. @ M. Gibson

    Co-sign as usual. Might I add, Zoe is the ideal black woman for gay white males; she's perfect for modeling high fashion. Which I find amusing because Zachary Quinto - the man white girls are trying to "fight" us for - is actually gay himself.

    @ Neo-prodigy

    Disgusting, isn't it? Please, please, PLEASE go off on Ars Marginal.

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  16. @ Neo Prodigy: OMG at the ethnicity switch-out! I loves me some Spuhura fics because I ship them HARD. But I could not. Could. Not. get down with all of this "blushing" action that too many of these stories insisted on foisting upon Uhura. And LMFAO at Uhura being in the shower and then toweling off her "silky wet strands". Um, EXCUSE me?! What is wrong with an African character having a wet kinky/curly/afro-texture? Saldana's hair sure as heck ain't naturally straight, neither was Nichols's, and I bet you neither of them walk out of the shower with dead straight hair.

    First of all, it lets me know right of the bat that the writer does not know how to write for black characters, and is therefore not black themselves.

    Second, is there no other feasible reaction that a female character can have besides this useless *blushing*?

    Also, as a die-hard Trek fan, I have fellow sister-fans who have told me about how got shit upon because their skin is too dark to dress up as Uhura.

    *Dies a little death*

    Are you FUCKING kidding me? What occurs in the brains of those little shits when they tell those women who get all prettied up in their costume that they are "too dark/black/heavy-featured" to be the only main black female character TOS has?

    I *wish* some of those same fools would come and say that to ME.

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  17. Also, as a die-hard Trek fan, I have fellow sister-fans who have told me about how [they] got shit upon because their skin is too dark to dress up as Uhura.

    What's this incessant need to control/talk down to black women? Is it because no white woman can dress up as Uhura...and looking convincing? Is that it?

    Some folks dubbed Majel Barrett as the First Lady of Trek because she married Roddenberry. Truth is, Uhura's the First Lady and original babe of Trek - always has been, always will be - and I honestly think it makes some folks want to kill themselves.

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  18. "...- and I honestly think it makes some folks want to kill themselves."

    Which leads to the biggest rhetorical question of our times: Why does whatever we do bother certain people so much?

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  19. @Ankh
    Some folks dubbed Majel Barrett as the First Lady of Trek because she married Roddenberry.

    From what I understand, Nichelle Nichols was involved with Gene for a time, but he couldn't handle her awesomeness. I think it's ironic that he couldn't handle an interracial relationship so he went running to the safety of a white woman (Majel) who couldn't tie Nichelle's shoes IMO.

    @leoprincess
    Which leads to the biggest rhetorical question of our times: Why does whatever we do bother certain people so much?

    This! It's like it's open season on black women all of a sudden. And it seems like it really ramped up after the Obamas took up residence in the WH and the First Lady knocked the whole world's socks off. They can't stand her. And because they hate her so much and can't really do anything about it, the rest of of us need to be put in our place.

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  20. @ cinnamon

    From what I understand, Nichelle Nichols was involved with Gene for a time, but he couldn't handle her awesomeness. I think it's ironic that he couldn't handle an interracial relationship so he went running to the safety of a white woman (Majel) who couldn't tie Nichelle's shoes IMO.

    You say ironic, darlin', but I say typical.

    And because they hate her so much and can't really do anything about it, the rest of of us need to be put in our place.

    As usual, my dear, your say it best.

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  21. My mother is a Trekkie and she didn't want to see the new movie cause she was afraid they'd mess it up. I forced her to go with me and she loved it. Saw it 3 times in the theater and watches the DVD all the time. Spock was always her favorite and she loves the new Spock too.

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  22. Can't wait to see Zoe and Zachary on screen together again. Their Spock and Uhura heat set the screen on fire.

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  23. @K, trust, a post is forthcoming. I'll shoot you the link when I finish.

    Also speaking of Majel Barrett and Nichelle Nichols, you might find this of interest:

    http://community.livejournal.com/blackhistory/229530.html

    Also I don't know what all this talk about black hair not being silky straight out of the shower.

    My hair is straight and it's naturally this way. I don't use a drop of straightener at all. In fact, they're about to induct me into the Gamma Ray Hall of Fame, because you wish you had hair like this.

    So I don't know what all this talk is about--

    *thunders*

    OH NO, IT'S RAINING. NOT THE RAVEN LOCKS! SOMEBODY PLEASE GET ME A PLASTIC BAG FOR MY HEAD.

    OH NOES!!!!!!

    *Flails arms and runs away*

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  24. @Aine-Xenon
    "Also, as a die-hard Trek fan, I have fellow sister-fans who have told me about how got shit upon because their skin is too dark to dress up as Uhura."

    I was told the same thing when I cosplayed Yoruichi from this anime called "Bleach", only I was told "she really isn't black so you shouldn't dress up like her".

    REALLY!? White people parade all around day acting like Japanese characters and it's ok, but the only DARK SKINNED character in a series doesn't look good on a DARK SKINNED PERSON!? What...the fuck?

    I hear people say the character would look better if she was lighter. SMH I'm sure if she had blond hair she'd be perfect too, huh?

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  25. @ Neo-Prodigy
    LOL! Your post was so funny XD

    @Aine-Xenon
    I was looking for a Halloween costume last year when I walked into the children's section. I thought it was adorable that they had Star Trek outfits. Then I saw a little blonde girl as the model for Uhura's costume. I seriously lost my shit.

    @Kyo
    Idgaf. I dress as whoever I want to at anime conventions. And you know what? People take pictures of/with me, pose with me, and tell me how cute I look. Also, I saw a Black Yoko (whi is a Japanese character) and she was the hottest Yoko at the convention. Way hotter than the dozen othe non-black Yokos. Just do you. Besides, no one knows if Yoruichi is black or not, so they don't really have an argument lol.

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  26. Why is it that WP will be the first to rant about slavery & Jim Crow being oh-so-long-ago, but don't notice anything wrong with dictating to black women what they can or cannot wear, or who they can or cannot be?

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  27. I'm not a Trekkie (grew up with Star Wars), but this tendency for some white fans to "deracialize" characters of color is nothing new. I think the most ridiculous example I've seen was when a bunch of idiots tried to claim that Storm wasn't black. No matter what evidence was shown to them, Storm was a mutant and therefore raceless. It was a real headbanger.

    Also, with all the talk about the recently corporate media salvo on black women, take a look at this "lovely" political cartoon from two "conseravtive, God-fearing, REAL AMURRICANS":
    http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvblackspin.com/media/2011/02/obamanation701.jpg
    What I don't understand about these morons is why they are mad about Michelle Obama promoting healthy eating.

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  28. "What I don't understand about these morons is why they are mad about Michelle Obama promoting healthy eating. "

    It doesn't matter what she promotes. She could promote showering twice a day AND washing your draws as soon as you take them off, and they'd still give her hell.

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  29. @ Kyo - They need to try that shyt with me. IWAMFW tell me that I'm too dark to cosplay whichever character I want!

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  30. Leoprincess said...
    "What I don't understand about these morons is why they are mad about Michelle Obama promoting healthy eating. "

    White women have been the face of fitness and healthy eating/living for years. Synonymous with stringent standards of beauty, white women have been the yardstick by which all are measured. Now here comes some black woman with a Big Ass, telling me how to be fit and healthy? Why the nerve!!

    If it had been Laura Bush or Rosalyn Carter, or the great Jacquelyn Kennedy, none of these white pundits would give a damn. As a matter of fact they’d be backing these white women up 100 percent. If anyone is going to be at the forefront of this movement then by God let it be a white woman. It just doesn’t feel right coming from a black woman; it’s as if they’re being dictated to by a lessor.

    During Obama’s presidential run one elderly Jewish woman likened Michelle to a Horse. Even others have compared her to a chimp, and she’s going to tell me how to eat healthy? These jealous, spiteful white women are doing anything and everything to downplay her intelligence- her femininity and her rightful place as First Lady.

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  31. Here's the Horse Comment directed at Michelle, in case it didn't come through. You know we all come from a 'certain tribe' according to the commenter.

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  32. @ M.Gibson I saw the horse comment and the stupid political cartoon, so b/c she has the features that white women themselves have to get injected, she is all these horrible things? SMH, I guess being anerexic and having a body the shape of a 9 year old boy is "healthy". White America thats y ur number globally is steady declining, a$$holes!

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  33. Amanda O said...
    I guess being anerexic and having a body the shape of a 9 year old boy is "healthy". White America thats y ur number globally is steady declining, a$$holes!

    Michelle is fine as wine. She’s the very epitome of black beauty. Her Rump (and by extension the rumps of all black women) has been the subject of debate since the campaign. To white America there'll never be another Jacqueline Kennedy. The atmosphere was likened to Camelot as I recall. Jackie went sleeveless whenever it suited her and the critics/press loved it. The first time Michelle went sleeveless some in the white press castigated her for it.

    I am reminded of a scene in the movie, ‘Elephant’ where three white girls caught up in conversation casually make their way to the bathroom after lunch so that they can stick their fingers down their throats. It’s the price white girls willingly pay for being the apple of the white man's eye. Their daily lives governed by a tragically warped world-view that keeps them on that pedestal.

    They can be as nasty as they want (Please excuse content) - as open as they want about their sexuality and the general public will eat it up. They never lose that sense of purity no matter how many men/animals they’ve been poked by. That’s what it means to be a white woman in America. No matter how many teen-aged students you lay with, yours will be a tragic story. Those magical tears will lesson your crime and even avoid jail time altogether with the right judge.

    Moreover, when it comes to science-fiction, she can be both helpless damsel or kick-ass heroine; praised primarily for her sexuality- regardless of her acting skills/talent. Ahh, but black beauty prevails and endures; lauded since the beginning of time the black woman is a unique treasure, and there are none like her.

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  34. I truly like your response M. Gibson. and you're right I have seen thopse movies with the white girls doing those things constantly (A film for health class) and it sickens me. Its honestly sad, but then again my sister has always told me, if America or any country tries so hard to make one race/ethnic group seem inferior especially when they target the women, its b/c they recognize the beauty of the people and women and can't accept it.

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  35. @Amanda O
    "...but then again my sister has always told me, if America or any country tries so hard to make one race/ethnic group seem inferior especially when they target the women, its b/c they recognize the beauty of the people and women and can't accept it."

    Right on the money... I totally agree. I tip my hat to your sister, she sounds very wise.

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  36. Just a follow-up on Michelle Obama's Healthy Food Campaign. I give you the latest quote from Rush Limbaugh; whose more than willing to give voice to what white people think, but are afraid to say out loud.

    From this racist scum's own lips....
    "The problem is, and dare I say this, it doesn't look like Michelle Obama follows her own nutritionary, dietary advice. And then we hear that she's out eating ribs at 1,500 calories a serving with 141 grams of fat per serving...I'm trying to say that our First Lady does not project the image of women that you might see on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue or of a woman Alex Rodriguez might date every six months or what have you."

    This is what we're up against. He's talking about her shape-- namely her ass; comparing her to a thin white woman. Bet you money no one is going to call for his resignation or censor. Like I said before, if it was some white woman leading the charge you wouldn't hear a peep from these racists.

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  37. Um...when was the last time Limbaugh's fat ass went to the gym???

    That motherfucker should've really kept his mouth shut on this one. He's a two-piece-and-a-biscuit away from a heart attack, that chubby fuck.

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  38. @ M.Gibson
    Right on the money... I totally agree. I tip my hat to your sister, she sounds very wise.

    Yeah she truly is, if it wasn't for her I wouldn't be half as pro-Black as I am now.

    And Rush needs to keep his trap shut, African women and their descendents are more than their behinds, they are basically goddesses but of course haters are going to hate.

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  39. Just so there is no erasure, there are black women suffering from bulimia, anorexia and so on. We don't all have the same body type and we can pretty much have every skin tone and hair texture known to man. Africa is the source, yo! Some of us are flat chested and without a notable derriere. Me personally, my ass only looks good in some jeans. And my black does crack, haha. XP

    Anyway, I will be so upset if the Uhura/Spock relationship is not renewed in the sequel. And I will be even more upset if Uhura does not get more screen-time and actually get to do her job a little more in the movie.

    And although it doesn't matter it was news to me that Zachary Quinto is gay. I'm assuming self-identified. Meh, he's still fine. :)

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  40. Leoprincess-
    "Which leads to the biggest rhetorical question of our times: Why don't they just go ahead and do it?"

    Fixed that for ya ^_^

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